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March 21[edit]

RIP Peter :([edit]

Sadly, I have to report the demise of a Wikipedia editor, User:Peter Entwisle (for details, see the article on him, Peter Entwisle). Is there any message/template which can be added to his talk page to stop automated responses from being added to it? Also, are there any other task which need to be performed re his account? Grutness...wha? 00:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Grutness, sorry to hear of Peter's passing. The guidelines for a deceased user are here and would maybe also suggest maybe putting this template on their page. NZFC(talk) 01:55, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Grutness...wha? 02:22, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Can you please accept my revised draft of Leisa Goddard?[edit]


I've reviewed the article and made changes according to give more reliable sources. Can you please let me know if this can be approved asap? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady250 (talkcontribs) 01:19, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Lady250, according to our BLP and Verfiability policies, you would need to provide a reliable source for each claim in the biography. You've worked on the article, yes, but there are still many statements that are not supported by reliable sources – that is, I don't see citations at the end of so many statements. Either delete all those statements that are not supported by reliable sources, or provide reliable sources. If you do that, the editors who have already commented similarly on your draft page, will themselves approve the article. Thanks, Lourdes 03:18, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Hello, Lady250. You haven't yet clicked the "Resubmit" button. That is how you ask reviewers to look at your revised draft. However, before you do, I would advise adding at least one source citation to the first and third paragraphs of the Journalism career section before you do. Note that there is a significant backlog for reviewing, and it may take some time for this draft to be reviewed. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 03:38, 21 March 2018 (UTC) (talk) 02:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[edit]

Can I create my own articles while using information provided by a copyright website, while these information are just common data as copyright protect the expression, but not include any information or concept itself (Iit is not possible to "use my own word" because I can't change these names, are just a "XXX is a restaurant with a 3 star of Miqilin" basis)? (talk) 02:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

You may, and indeed should, copy facts from sources. Facts include the names of things, so "Joe's Deli is a restaurant in Exampletown." would not be a copyright violation. You must, however, be careful not to copy detailed phrasing beyond very obvious facts that cannot easily be expressed in other forms, and you should also avoid close paraphrasing, or retaining the sentence structure while changing the exact words. Be sure to cite the websites or other sources from which you derive the facts. In describing a person, place or concept, it can and should be described in your own words. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 03:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
By the way, to create a new article you need to use a registered Wikipedia account. When you have registered, it is best to use your account name when posting to noticeboards like this one. That way we can notify you when there is any reply: Noyster (talk), 11:47, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

I am being targeted as anti-christian and pro-muslim[edit]

Where should I complain for this personal attack. I am not antichristian and not pro-muslim. I respect both religions equally even though I am neither Christian or Muslim. There is a hint that I use sock puppets, nothing further from truth. Τζερόνυμο (talk) 09:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Well Τζερόνυμο since you didn't wait for a reply but already took the matter to ANI, there's probably no more to be said here: Noyster (talk), 11:39, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, yes : Noyster...I did found my way by googling the Question. Maybe I 'll do that first next time. Τζερόνυμο (talk) 11:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Twinkle help/support/suggestions?[edit]

Is there a central location for suggestions or comments about Twinkle? I've looked through all the docs I can find, but none seem to list this - apart from Wikipedia:Twinkle#History which lists a few contributors to the gadget. Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:58, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Chaheel Riens Presume you've tried Wikipedia talk:Twinkle and its 39 archives?: Noyster (talk), 11:33, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
D'oh! Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:07, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Changing Articles[edit]


I wanted to ask you, how I can change/update a page about a film which the Production Company, where I work, produced. I already changed it but the Admin Lugnuts changed everything back.

Thank you for your help.

LesFilmsFauves (talk) 13:02, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@LesFilmsFauves: The changes seem to have been removed as they were a copy violation. Basically, you cannot use anything copied from elswhere on the web due to copyright issues. Please see WP:CV for more information. Also, as you seem to have a connection to the subject, you must read both WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the necessary disclosures. You should make edit requests on the article talk page. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 13:54, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
(ec) LesFilmsFauves since you have a conflict of interest⋅, you should not edit the article directly at all, but instead make suggestions, with independent verifiable sources on the article talk page. The image you added was copyright without evidence that it had been released for anyone to use for any purpose as required here. I've blocked your user name because it appears to represent a company, which is not permitted Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:58, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Help with categories[edit]

Hi I am not sure how to fix up the category errors. I keep on being passed to instruction pages d[@-@]b (talk) 13:28, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@Wakelamp: The last category had curly, instead of square, brackets so displayed (part of) the cat page. Eagleash (talk) 13:46, 21 March 2018 (UTC)


I wish to add the name Of Jayant Vishnu Narlikar to Emeritus Professor Category in India, but I am unable to edit that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:05, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Category has been added to the page... Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Eagleash (talk) 14:33, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

New article/category/stub page[edit]

Hi, I have created between 50 and 100 articles and categories on Wikipedia but not for over a year or so. There was a page where I could create articles live into Wikipedia for experienced users. That page/option no longer seems to exist. How do I create new articles live, request new categories, etc?Gomach (talk) 15:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

You can create an article directly in main space by simple typing its name into the search box, Gomach. I don't advise that (I'd always suggest using the AFC process) but you can. I'm not sure what page you are talking about. As for categories, you can create a new category simply by adding it to some pages. --ColinFine (talk) 15:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
You can use the boxes in Wikipedia:Your first article but it's just as easy to use the normal search box on any page. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Somewhat surreptitious changes[edit]

Can someone with access to academic sources please check this? An anon changed a number in Anglo-Indian, which links to an academic article I can't read. It may well be a change IGF - ie they might have access to the article, and wanted to correct an error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carbon Caryatid (talkcontribs)

@Carbon Caryatid: The linked diff changed 4,00,000 to 400,000 so it didn't change the number 400000 with five zeros. It only changed the notation away from the Indian numbering system which places commas differently. But the previous edit [1] changed a large interval "Est. 300,000 – 1,000,000" to "Est. 4,00,000". It's inside the interval but I don't know whether the source supports it, and the edit also changed other numbers. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant to include both changes in my diff. I am aware of Indian number notation; it was the actual change from the wide (and possibly higher) number to the more precise one that I am querying. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 17:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Strange behavior with nested collapsed tables[edit]

I'm trying to figure out what controls this behavior. If I nest multiple collapsed tables, then expand one level (so the button now shows "hide"), all of the inner collapsed levels change from "show" to "hide" as well, even though they are still collapsed.

You can see this behavior here:

Any ideas why it's doing it that way? Any ideas how to fix it so the inner still-collapsed levels don't have the "show/hide" button change to match the outer level? Thanks for any help. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:37, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

See Phabricator:T168689. Ruslik_Zero 21:40, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I see what you describe above. {{Navbox with collapsible groups}} doesn't have this behavior. I don't know what makes the difference. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Yeah, for my purposes I need collapsed tables, not a navbox. I suppose I could try to duplicate the formatting of the tables in the navbox to fix it, but it would be better if this bug was just fixed. It didn't used to happen. @Ruslik0: Thanks for pointing me to the phab ticket. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:04, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

New Page submitted with Page Name error[edit]

My first creating a new page and I made a major error.

Somehow I pasted "Draft: Company Page" over my title replacing the original title I started with "GEM Equipment of Oregon". Unfortunately, I didn't notice the change until after I hit "submit" so I can't edit it.

Will this be corrected during the new page review process OR do I have to make a special request to have it corrected so it is not rejected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SARogersGEM (talkcontribs) 21:47, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@SARogersGEM: It would be corrected if the page is accepted but it can create confusion so I moved it to Draft:GEM Equipment of Oregon. Your account is too new to move pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:56, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
By the way, see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for what the draft should satisfy. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:58, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter:Thank you for editing the page name. I also appreciate the link to the Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) page. My company is actually the worldwide leader in our specialized segment of manufacturing; however, I haven't been able to locate sufficient references to cite so I didn't include the statement on the page. I assumed I could add that information later, but now I'm concerned it will be rejected because of the omission. --SARogersGEM (talk) 22:37, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@SARogersGEM: Thanks for not including an unsourced claim. The mentioned claim would at least require an independent reliable source. The current content would probably be declined. You would get a chance to improve and resubmit it. You are also very welcome to make changes while it's awaiting review. When a reviewer gets to it they will review the version at the time. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:45, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
You say it's your company so see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter:Thank you again for the assistance. I have created a user page and added the disclosure. Good to know I have some time to search for that independent source; hopefully I can update the page before then. --SARogersGEM (talk) 23:21, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Can I draw railway tracks layout of a railway station or yard?[edit]

but only available source is aerial imagery of Google Earth, is it able? (talk) 22:22, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Please clarify your question. Are you trying to add an image to a Wikipedia article? RudolfRed (talk) 22:47, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but not put directly google earth imagery, I will draw self about these railway tracks layout myself and licensing as CC-by-sa while information itself are not covered by copyright125.230.18.101 (talk) 23:02, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Yes, are allowed to add your own work if it does not violate copyright, and your proposal does not violate copyright. Specifically: the Google Earth photos are copyrighted (under a truly tortured extension of copyright law) because the photographer is assumed to have contributed "creative elements" such as selecting the camera angle and lighting. However, the actual content that you are abstracting (i.e., the track layout) is not a copyrightable creative element, but is rather a collection of facts. Your drawing is your representation of these facts. If you intend to add your drawing to a Wikipedia article, you must provide a reference to a reliable source. In this case, simply state in the description of your drawing that the layout was in the photographic image you found at Google Earth. Give the (latitiude, longitude, atlitude, and angle info). This is equivalent to giving the page number in a book cite. Please put your drawing at wikicommons, since it has your CC-BY-SA license, and please use SVG if you can do so easily, since scalable graphics are in general the best choice for Wikipedia articles. Come back here if you have questions. And thanks for your work! -Arch dude (talk) 02:47, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Apparent system error causing mass deletions on talk page[edit]


I made this edit

which, as you see, deleted 17,564 characters from a talk page, in non-contiguous sections. It was quickly reverted here

I am absolutely certain that I did not delete any of that material, intentionally or accidentally. I would never intentionally delete anyone's comments, and I would certainly be aware if I accidentally deleted 17,564 characters in non-contiguous sections, and I did not. My edit simply added this sentence and nothing else:

"I encourage anyone to make comparisons because: "Since Mr. Trump became a presidential candidate, PolitiFact has evaluated more than 500 assertions and found 69 percent of them mostly false, false or “pants on fire” false. By comparison, it judged 26 percent of the statements by Mr. Obama that it evaluated as false and the same percentage for those by Hillary Clinton"

I am now being accused of acting maliciously. Please research this issue to see if the WP database "burped" in some way. Has anyone else reported similar issues?

Thank you. soibangla (talk) 22:31, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

The most likely scenario is that you were viewing an earlier revision in the Talk page history and then chose to edit it. By saving your edits which were based on that older revision, you effectively deleted any comments added after that revision (regardless of the section in which they had been added). Always wise to make sure that when you choose to edit a page, you are editing the most recent revision of that page. A red band below the page title (and just below it links to navigate between previous and subsequent revisions) will generally appear when this is not the case (assuming you are not using a mobile Wikipedia client or browser). General Ization Talk 22:36, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, but how does that explain these peculiar and massive non-contiguous deletions? And if this sort of error is possible, then surely it would be commonly known by highly experienced editors, yet some such editors have accused me of malicious behavior. soibangla (talk) 22:49, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
If my theory is correct, the removed material would be contiguous temporally (in terms of when it was added), not positionally (in terms of its location on the page). General Ization Talk 22:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
And indeed they are, if you look carefully at the timestamps. As I said below, I don't see that anyone's accusing you of acting maliciously; they're simply disagreeing with your insistence that it's a system problem. General Ization Talk 22:53, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
The editor who restored the edits you deleted appears from their edit summary to have made the same assumption, and did not malign you. Who is doing so and where? General Ization Talk 22:40, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Ah, I see the comments on your Talk page. I don't see that anyone's accusing you of anything, but I see skepticism about your claim that this is a system error, and I am equally skeptical. Especially since you say it's the third time this has happened to you, I suspect this issue is procedural, not technical. General Ization Talk 22:46, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
"Hard to believe" is an accusation, IMO. I find it difficult to believe that such a "procedural" issue could be possible without a user being presented with a big, fat warning message upon a commit. Again, is this issue prevalent? soibangla (talk) 22:53, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
As I said above, I don't see that anyone's accusing you of acting maliciously; they're simply disagreeing with your insistence that it's a system problem. And no, there is no big fat warning message if you inadvertently do this, in part because in some cases that is precisely what you want to do (though generally not on a Talk page). General Ization Talk 22:55, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
"I don't see that anyone's accusing you" We disagree. "in some cases that is precisely what you want to do" — I submit that in the vast majority of cases a user would not want to do that, and catering to the tiny majority of users who would want to results in a potentially catastrophic error for the vast majority. Again, is this error prevalent, please? soibangla (talk) 23:05, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, it has happened before, and it often happens with new editors who are unfamiliar with the fact that every revision of a page is retained in history and can be used (intentionally or otherwise) as the basis for a new revision (essentially a fork, for those of a programming mindset). I'm not saying that you're new, but apparently new to this circumstance, and perhaps new to editing a page that is so rapidly being edited as Talk:Donald Trump so as to magnify the issue.) General Ization Talk 23:09, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I watch Talk:Donald Trump, it's not that active during, say, an hour. And it certainly wasn't that active this morning, when I prepared my edit elsewhere, logged in, loaded Talk:Donald Trump fresh and promptly posted my edit. I suggest that the TP back-end has a concurrency issue that is being "resolved" by a warning message that is not properly placed for a user to see. And, as we've seen, it can have catastrophic consequences that can cause users to suspect malicious activity (and some may have observed that but not this exculpatory discussion, so the suspicion "sticks.") soibangla (talk) 01:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
By the way, please click here. This is a link into the page history of your Talk page, to an old revision. You will see a warning message at the top of the editor (depending on what client you're using): "You are editing an old revision of this page. If you publish it, any changes made since then will be removed. You may wish to edit the current revision instead." (in which current revision is a link you can click to load that version). General Ization Talk 23:17, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Please note that that message appears above the edit box and is thus not visible as a user moves below the edit box to complete the edit summary and preview/publish, rendering the message ineffective. Perhaps the message belongs below the edit box. soibangla (talk) 01:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
You could be right, though I will say that the placement of these key components of the editing interface is most likely based on usability studies that have revealed where most editors are likely to see the notice. In any case, it's unlikely that anyone who can consider your suggestion and possibly implement it is to be found here at the Help Desk, which doesn't typically handle questions about changes to the interface. The best place to bring up this issue and your observation will be the Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). General Ization Talk 01:11, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
You can test this functionality yourself, in your own sandbox. General Ization Talk 23:00, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
You edited an old version however it happened. This diff shows which version. Some things vary with user settings but when you edit an old version you should normally see the red box at MediaWiki:Editingold, and also another red box starting "This is an old revision of this page". You are taking "Hard to believe" out of context. It was a reply to your "I strongly suggest the WP database is repeatedly hiccuping", and it said: "Hiccuping, only for you? Deleting selected comments and leaving others? Hard to believe." It was not an accusation that you were lying but a statement that your hiccup theory was probably false. I agree with that. I guess you have a habit of sometimes starting an edit from an old revision without noticing it or without knowing that it removes all edits since then. Diffs have edit links at the time stamps going to those versions. Maybe that's how it happens but I'm just guessing. I suggest using section edit links when possible. It's easier, it automatically gives an edit summary showing others you edited the section, and it's impossible to edit an old version because only the current version has section edit links. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:15, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I believe it also makes it less likely that you will encounter an edit conflict on a page that is being rapidly edited, since you are not loading the entire page, only the section you wish to edit. This could be a real plus on a page like Talk:Donald Trump. General Ization Talk 23:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
  • The deleted sections are spread out over a 2-3 hour period. Is it possible that you had the editor or talk page open for that span of time without refreshing? I've had this happen when I leave my computer for a few hours, come back and continue editing what is now the "old" version. It's not a problem on quieter pages where nobody else is editing but it can cause an edit conflict if others have published changes in the meantime. –dlthewave 23:50, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
"Is it possible that you had the editor or talk page open for that span of time...?" No, it was my first edit of the day, after I logged out the previous night. I pulled up the fresh page immediately before my edit. soibangla (talk) 00:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
This merely means that the old revision the editor selected as the base for their edit was 2-3 hours old when they loaded it -- not that they had it loaded and unsaved for hours. General Ization Talk 00:10, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


I have published an article about the author Maurice Ryan. Yet, if I'm not signed in it doesn't appear when I search for the topic. Have a forgotten a step whilst publishing? Or do you need more references?

Thanks for your assistance. Warm regards,

Nicky — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nispijk (talkcontribs) 23:30, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@Nispijk: What you have created is a 'draft' in your userpage. This is not what your userpage is for... it is for you to provide a little detail about yourself and how you intend to contribute to Wikipedia. The content should probaly be move to draftspace so you can continue to develop it. I have left some useful links at your talk page which should help you with creating content. Eagleash (talk) 23:36, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
I have moved your page from User:Nispijk to Draft:Maurice Ryan and added a box with information and a submit link. See Wikipedia:User pages for what User:Nispijk is for. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:45, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

March 22[edit]

How can I change a page name?[edit]

I have to change a page name. The current name is "IClassical Foundation" and it should be "iClassical Foundation". How can I do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apetrini (talkcontribs) 00:07, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry but this cannot be done due to technical restrictions on the software itself. Please read this page for more details. Sakura CarteletTalk 00:58, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@Apetrini: The first character of page names cannot be lower case. I have added {{lowercase title}} to display it as lower case on the article itself. The "real" name is still upper case and will be shown in other places like categories and search results. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:59, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apetrini (talkcontribs)

Make collapsible[edit]

I would like to make this template collapsible:

Like this one:

I've tried to do it before by copying and pasting the top part but it didn't work. Marax (talk) 03:17, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@Marax: Some parameter names needed to be changed as well. Have a look at what I've done in the sandbox, Template:Criticism of religion sidebar/sandbox. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:33, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Marko Milutinović[edit]

I don't understand why this is being considered for deletion. He is playing at a professional football club being OFK BEOGRAD! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelMimi (talkcontribs) 03:18, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi MichaelMimi you can argue why it should be kept here but it appears he doesn't play for a professional club in a professional league. NZFC(talk) 03:52, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


How can I get GIF templates? Everyone else has animations on their user pages, but not me. Help plzplzplz. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CrazyMinecart88 (talkcontribs) 12:45, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

I like your excitement. You can find a lot of gifs at commons. However, you need to be clear about our user page image use guidelines and the overall Image use policy. Lourdes 15:52, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


Is Béla Kovács (born May 1, 1937 in Tatabánya, Hungary) the son of Bela Kovacs, born April 1908 – and lived until June 1959)? Being referred to a long list of clarinetists, we do not see the clarinetist/composer: John P. Russo whose credentials are listed at Ho has taught at Combs College of Music for over 15 years and also at Philadelphia Musical Academy. He is published by Ludwig Music Inc. He has recorded over 25 solo/concerto works with orchestras and more than 74 chamber works with notable artists! (listed at: THANK YOU, Caroline Hunt, CRS Inc. (listed at:

Regarding Béla Kovács and father, I can't help you, but others might. Are you able to enquire on the [Hungarian Wikipedia]?
Regarding John P. Russo, what "long list of clarinetists" are you referring to? Is it in this (English) Wikipedia? If so, could you please provide a link to it, so that we know what you're referring to? Many (though not all) lists on Wikipedia are deliberately restricted to people who also have their own dedicated article on Wikipedia, and John P. Russo appears not to, but it's quite possible he may qualify for one. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 19:30, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Use of map[edit]

Hello, I have written a book about Christopher Columbus's first voyage in 1492. I would like to use a map in my book that you have on your Haiti page. The map is entitled: The five caciquedoms of Hispaniola.

Can I use it?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolron33 (talkcontribs) 13:21, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Coolron33 you can use any image that is here unless it is a non-free image with a fair use tag. Since it is released as PD, there are no requirements, but you ought to attribute the map to Wikimedia commons and make it clear that it is PD Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:20, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Click an image to get license information about it. The licenses vary. You refer to commons:File:Copia de Cacicazgos de la Hispaniola.png. It is public domain so you are allowed to use it with no conditions. Many people will still consider it appropriate to say where you got the image. Many other images require you to credit the source or only use it in special circumstances. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:25, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Yes. You check the copyright license of an image on wikipedia by clicking on the image and then looking at the "details", which include the copyright status. The map is an image at wikicommons, here: [2]. Images there are all usable, each under the conditions imposed by the creator of the image. Most(?) are CC-BY-SA (if you use it you must attribute it), but this one is "released to the public domain", so you are not legally obligated to attribute it. However as the author of a book you should go ahead and attribute it anyway, especially if the book has any pretensions of being a scholarly work. Attribution can be minimal: just give the link. -Arch dude (talk) 16:22, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Pinging Coolron33 so they can see the answer. TigraanClick here to contact me 16:29, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Amin Help on the Talk Page[edit]

Hi -- would it be possible to get assistance on the request on our Talk Page? User talk:Cunydigital —Preceding undated comment added 13:47, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

GA and FA[edit]

Is it a requirement for an article to pass GA prior to FA nomination? L293D () 14:53, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

No but if an article has failed GA then those issues should be resolved with before nominating for FA. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@L293D: What article were you considering—HMS Liverpool (C11)? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 15:10, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes. This is my first one, so help would be welcome. L293D () 15:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
That article is A-class currently, which above GA as mentioned at Wikipedia:WikiProject_assessment#Grades. If the article has been improved since the A-cass review then it could be worth nominating for FA. Good luck. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:30, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@L293D: Ah! Then you will see I removed your have the article's featured-status reviewed  :) I guess you meant WP:FAC, rather than FAR...the thing is, you haven't actually contributed to it yet, and the FAC rules are pretty clear that Nominators who are not significant contributors to the article should consult regular editors of the article before nominating it. To be fair, that's clearly User:SoLando, who hasn't edited in over a year. But in any case, I defintely recommend a peer review before nominating it. I hope this isn't dispiriting, only—if it was easy, everything would be FA eh!—Let's see what the coordinators think: @WP:FAC coordinators: —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 15:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, I thought of that, but you will se it has already undergone a peer review and a A-class article assessment, which it passed. Are you suggesting to renominate it for peer review? L293D () 15:34, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, they were nearly eight years ago. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap shit room 15:38, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
L293D, for an FAC nom to be accepted, you will need to make it clear that despite having made zero edits to this article that you have the experience and access to sources so that you can address any concerns raised by reviewers Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:01, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Publishing a translation[edit]


I tried to publish a traslation from article 'Pierre de Lauzun' originally in French. But I get the following warning:

An error occurred while publishing the translation. Please try to publish the page again. Error: Hit AbuseFilter:

Content Translation Edits

Can somebody help me?

thank you in anticpation

Best regards

Louis Larnas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louis Larnas (talkcontribs) 17:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

WP:Translation says that use of the Content Translation tool is currently limited to extended confirmed editors. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:37, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Swimming race in the Thames[edit]


Some guys and me are currently interested in the boom of the swimming races through cities in the beginning of the XXth century. One of them happened in London fr:Traversée_de_Londres_à_la_nage : do you know how it was called in English ? it will facilitate us to find any informations on the web. thanks! Hector (talk) 22:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

I see that refers merely to "15-mile swim through London, open to the world", but refers to the "Richmond to Blackfriars race", as does --David Biddulph (talk) 04:26, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Worth noting Hector that both "Richmond to Blackfriars" sources were written by Caitlin Davies, who also wrote a book on Thames swimming history, Downstream: A History and Celebration of Swimming the River Thames which may have some information. There's a short contemporary article on the race here (bottom right), which may be of interest, but it doesn't give the race a name. Also, the Reference Desk would probably be the place to ask questions like this – technically, the Help Desk is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Regards, Dairy {talk} 10:21, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Editing the Knack II Article[edit]

Hello, I'd like to ask a question about my last edits to the Article about the game Knack II (, and why they were deleted, specially the last one, about the Plot of the Game.

The first edit was mainly a joke edit, and I admit it, it was just to follow a common meme about the game being "a Masterpiece"; and getting a "10/5", so, I understand that it was deleted. However, the second one, which opened the Sinopsis Section of the Article, and contained the main plot of the game, was not a joke, it actually contained the plot of the game, and I know that for sure as I have seen a complete walkthrough of said game.

So, my question is, if it was not a joke, but an actual, legitimate post, why was it deleted? Is it because it was too long? Or because any edits to the Article are immediately seen as "a joke" right now? (talk) 22:32, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

First making a "joke" edit is unlikely to get other users appreciating other edits you make. The second one was a whole lot of information added with no sources, Wikipedia is not really for plot summaries. But if you feel it should be added to the article, then I suggest discussing it on the talk page and also reading WP:PLOTSUM. NZFC(talk) 02:51, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I've revised my article draft about Leisa Goddard. Can you please accept it for review?[edit]

Hi. I've revised my article draft about Leisa Goddard. Can you please accept it for review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady250 (talkcontribs) 22:43, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

 Comment: Looks good enough, sourced with claims, and an infobox. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 23:04, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

March 23[edit]

How to create a term about an institution?[edit]

I want to create a new term about an institution, so I want to creation procedure and the rules or standards for creating the new term? Looking forward your answers!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:43, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

  • Sorry, but Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. We only have articles about things that have been independently reported in reliable sources, using our definitions of such sources (WP:RS). If your new term is eventually reported upon in multiple reliable sources, it would still need to be notable (WP:NOTABLE) and would still need to be more than a definition of the term (WP:DICTDEF) to warrant a separate article. -Arch dude (talk) 03:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Article contains inaccurate information and links[edit]

I am one of two spokesmen for Anti-Communist Action, a free speech activist group which - before a heavy reform - had ties to "Alt-Right" groups. This is no longer the case and I will render a sample list of tentative changes below. I currently operate the organization's Twitter and have been active within the group since March 2017, shortly after its formation.

  1. Anti-Communist Action is an alt-right organization based in the United States and Canada.
  2. The group has links to Atomwaffen Division.
  3. The group has done security for various alt-right and white supremacist rallies.

As the first sentence is no longer accurate, I will update this section with a brief history of the internal changes. The second sentence is no longer accurate and will be pruned. I will expand upon the third sentence, including a photo.

  1. Patch however disputed the claim that all members are white supremacists.
  2. The group has also stated that it accepts members of all-races.
  3. Leaked ProPublica logs however found violent rhetoric against minorities in the organization.

Patch's article, while fairly accurate, is not related to Anti-Communist Action, and will be pruned. This is accurate and will be appended to include all religions. The content shown by ProPublica were troll users who the administrators at the time, myself included, regularly deleted messages and banned for inappropriate behavior. This claim will be explained in a brief, detailed section.

If requested, I will submit a full page for pre-approval, before proceeding with edits. If this is not necessary, please let me know so that I can begin my edits. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anticomskrrt (talkcontribs) 02:25, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Note, I have reported username. Anticomskrrt as for the changes, these are best to be discuss on the articles talk page but as for actually making them, unless they can be backed up by reliable independant sources then you are unlikely to be able to change what is in the article. NZFC(talk) 02:44, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Wu language wikipedia about Liu Xiaobo[edit]

Hello! Who can help me link this with Liu Xiaobo? I live in China and can't do it! Thanks a lot!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 他删之石 (talkcontribs)

HI 他删之石 Looks like that article is already linked. On the English article, it's listed on the Languages section. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:31, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much! – 他删之石 11:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Change of page name[edit]

Could you please change the name of the page Draft:BCN1 to BCN Drone Center please ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prakharkamal (talkcontribs) 12:00, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

@Prakharkamal: I have moved it to Draft:BCN Drone Center and added a box with advice and a submit button. A title without "Draft:" is only if it's accepted as an article. It lacks references to satisfy Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Notability. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:59, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
And I've deleted the draft, because the whole thing was a copyvio of Black Kite (talk) 19:03, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

How do I add a reference?[edit]

I just edited a page for the first time, but can't find out how to add a reference/citation to my edit. How do I do it? I thought that by going to the Help Desk I'd find out, but I still can't find it, sorry! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grannybuttons (talkcontribs) 13:15, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Grannybuttons. I've added some instructions to your talk page. --NeilN talk to me 13:19, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
Not sure how, but a large number of references went missing after recent edits... producing error messages. I restored the page and then re-added GB's content and ref. and it seems OK now. Eagleash (talk) 14:11, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

bed bugs[edit]

How are they transmitted to one another? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:A1CC:EF00:5D53:1F5:5D64:3447 (talk) 14:01, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, this is the desk for help in editing Wikipedia. If the article Bed bug does not help, you could try asking at the reference desk. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:14, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
This isn't the correct place for an answer, but the bugs crawl into luggage and the seams of clothing. Dbfirs 21:31, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Should I delete Images Created for a settled discussion?[edit]

File:NoClear.png, File:YesClear.png and File:GoldfishWhiteTelescopeNoClear.png were created on commons as part of the discussion Talk:Goldfish#Removing_the_Clear_Messes_Up_the_Table. The three images serve no purpose except to give context to the discussion, which has now arrived at a consensus. Should they be deleted, as their function is concluded, or preserved so future editors can follow the discussion? --HighFlyingFish (talk) 18:37, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hey HighFlyingFish. The basic requirement for images to be within the scope of commons is that they can realistically useful for some educational purpose, and even for images outside that scope, a small number of images are allowed for personal use if the user is active on some other project. So they'd probably be just fine where they are. Having said that, Commons grants fairly broad discretion for the deletion of otherwise unused images if requested by the author, and so if you would like them deleted, you can add {{SD|G7}} to the files and someone can come along and clean them up. GMGtalk 18:57, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Help With Permissions to write an article[edit]

Hello, I need help writing an article about a soccer player. He has had his page deleted and wants to be able to put it back up. His name is protected so I would like to know what we need to do to be able to either get his page re-instated or be able to write a new one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DangerousFig (talkcontribs) 20:39, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi DangerousFig, if the article has been deleted before then unless something has changed it is unlikely that another article can be created. But the requirements for a football player is WP:NFOOTY or otherwise meeting WP:GNG. If you need a hand, I work with WP:FOOTBALL project and write player articles so maybe able to help. NZFC(talk) 21:06, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
If he was Wikipedia:Notability (people) he would not have had the page deleted about him. Note: it was not His page. Wait until he becomes notable and a page will be created without him having to get involved. --Aspro (talk) 21:08, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:Notability (people) he would be considered notable as he has played professionally. The page about him has been protected, will that be an obstacle if someone tries to write about him? ~DangerousFig (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

His Page wouldn't have been deleted if he actually played in a fully professional league. If you let us know the name of the player we could tell you but it sounds like the page was deleted and WP:SALT to stop it being recreated as he isn't notable. NZFC(talk) 21:36, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

His name is Michel Okai, he is pretty new so I understand why notability would be a problem. It seems there's no other option than to wait. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DangerousFig (talkcontribs) 21:51, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes looking at the deletion discussion he isn't notable as hasn't played in professional league. Until then, I wouldn't try recreating the article. NZFC(talk) 21:57, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Demetrio Paparoni[edit]

Demetrio Paparoni, a prominent art historian, art critic and art curator, has a Wikipedia page in Italian.

How can this be created in English? Paparoni works with many American artists and we would all like to create this for him.

Timothy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timothygs (talkcontribs) 22:19, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

You will find advice at WP:Translation. I notice, however, that the Biografia section of the Italian article has only one reference, so you may need to improve the referencing to produce an article acceptable here on the English Wikipedia. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:50, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello, Timothygs. Creating a new article is one of the harder tasks on Wikipedia (and it is not necessarily much easier if the article already exists in another language). Start by having a look at at Your first article, and especially look at the requirements for notability, which are not (directly) about whether the subject is "prominent", but depend on whether several people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish in-depth material about the subject, since the content of an article should be almost entirely sourced to such material.
You may if you wish create an article by translating the Italian article: if you do so, you must attribute it properly: see WP:Translation. As each language Wikipedia has its own policies, it is not necessarily the case that an article acceptable to one Wikipedia will be acceptable to another: your English article, even if it is a translation, will be evaluated according to the policies of English Wikipedia.
One final point: I strongly suggest that you let go of the idea of create an article "for" him. Wikipedia articles are about subjects; they are not for (or against) them. They should summarise what the independent reliably-published sources say about the subject, not what the subject or their friends or associates say or want to say. --ColinFine (talk) 00:56, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

March 24[edit]

Alejandro Jenné[edit]

Alejandro Jenné (Cuidad de México, México, 4 de Noviembre 1978) es artista innovador, dedicado a cultivar la expresión artística a través de la música, el canto, el movimiento, el juego y la improvisación.

Alejandro Jenné cuenta con gran experiencia en el escenario artístico a nivel internacional. Su experiencia en música barroca es amplia. Con delicadeza y precisión se expresa en el laúd, la tiorba y la guitarra barroca. Esto lo ha llevado a presentarse en foros importantes en México, incluyendo Palacio de Bellas Artes, Teatro Degollado y el paraninfo de la Universidad de Guadalajara. Alejandro, es maestro formado en la escuela de "Liberar la voz" y es guía de la Pedagogía Intuitiva del maestro sueco Pär Ahlbom. A la vez fue fundador y director por 8 años de Orfeo ‘Escuela de música’. Alejandro participa activamente en promover el desarrollo artístico sano y accesible para todo ser humano. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.mudrunkova (talkcontribs) 02:36, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. Google translates your Spanish as:
Alejandro Jenné (City of Mexico, Mexico, November 4, 1978) is an innovative artist, dedicated to cultivating artistic expression through music, singing, movement, play and improvisation.
Alejandro Jenné has great experience in the international artistic scene. His experience in baroque music is wide. With delicacy and precision it is expressed in the lute, the theorbo and the baroque guitar. This has led him to appear at important forums in Mexico, including Palace of Fine Arts, Teatro Degollado and the auditorium of the University of Guadalajara. Alejandro, is a teacher trained in the school of "Liberar la voz" and is a guide of the Intuitive Pedagogy of the Swedish teacher Pär Ahlbom. At the same time he was founder and director for 8 years of Orfeo 'School of music'. Alejandro is actively involved in promoting artistic development that is healthy and accessible to every human being.
Are you requesting an article here on this person or did you intend to post this on the Spanish Wikipedia? In either case, you need some WP:Reliable sources to establish WP:Notability. Dbfirs 07:53, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Problem with a wikilink[edit]

When you hover the cursor over the blue link to the page for Holbein's The Body of the Dead Christ in the Tomb, along with the opening sentences to the article it provides an image of the wrong painting, a painting by Grunewald that is further down the article. I am working on something that discusses the Holbein painting and it is disconcerting to have the wrong image pop up. How can I fix this? Harold the Sheep (talk) 05:33, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't know what caused the problem, but Magic links bot seems to have cured it soon after you drew our attention to it. Dbfirs 07:44, 24 March 2018 (UTC)